Monday, July 5, 2010

Laugh Of The Day - Monday, 7/5/2010

Published by Lois Lame, SSALRCYTMVDQJCP & Assistant Editor

“I know a man who gave up smoking, drinking, sex, and rich food. He was healthy right up to the day he killed himself.”  ~ Johnny Carson

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Quote Of The Day - Monday, 7/5/2010

Published by Lois Lame, SSALRCYTMVDQJCP & Assistant Editor

"True discovery consists not in finding new landscapes, but in seeing the same landscape with new eyes."  ~ Marcel Proust



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Sunday, July 4, 2010

Fireworks Finale - Boston, 2009

Published by Lois Lame, SSALRCYTMVDQJCP & Assistant Editor



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Real Names For Real Opinions! Cowards, Back-Stabbers and Slimy Slippery Snails!

Published by Dick Schaefer, Contributing Writer and Part-time Investigative Reporter

Today on the 4th of July, Jeff Noedel posted the following comment on his blog CNL ('Cheap News LIVE') ......

Real names for real opinions!   Sun, 07/04/2010 - 12:06pm — J. Noedel-Publisher

I'm proud of you, Boob, for saying what you think and signing your name to it. On this July 4, it's refreshing to see a citizen accountable for his opinions. That goes for all our CNL commenters.

As we enter another County Commission election cycle, the cowardly Internet insults and slander are in full swing, 90 percent of it coming from one sick old puppy.

Anonymous, unaccoutable slander and hate-speech does not strengthen our democracy. It weakens it. One wise Hermannite has persuaded me that it can even discourage good people from volunteering for public service and running for public office.

How much bravery does it take to hurl insults and slander people from the safety of a fake name? Or 10 different fake names? Mean people suck. Mean people who hide behind fake names suck even more. Make no mistake, the worst of the Internet misinformation and slander is coming from a small number of local cowards.

But this is America, where even the crazies enjoy the right to free speech. God Bless America.

Jeff Noedel
Publisher, CNL

The Editorial Board and Staff here at Hermann Hearsay agree whole-heartedly with Mr. Noedel's point of view. People who comment on Hermann Hearsay are always encouraged to use their real name (if they feel comfortable doing so) instead of hiding behind a fake name or just 'Anonymous'. If your prefer, however, you may comment under a 'username'.  We understand that some people, particularly business people, don't want to take a controversial stand for fear that they may offend a portion of their clientele.  Recently we have received some very hateful comments from an 'Anonymous' commenter or perhaps the comments have come from several 'Anonymous' commenters. Unlike "Cheap News LIVE", however, we publish ALL comments received ....... those with real names and usernames.  Heck, we even publish the hateful 'Anonymous' comments. And you don't even have to pay us $19.95 per annum (as is required over at CNL) for the privilege of taking a gratuitous swipe at us!  Nope, we invite you to do it for FREE!  We have thick skin, and we know how to handle those 'Anonymous' comments.

Now why do we do this?  We could easily reject any comments we don't like, the ones which slam us and attack us personally.  But no, my friends, we publish ALL comments .... positive and negative!  And I want you to know that we do so for the following reasons:
  1. We figure that our intelligent and sophisticated readers are quite capable of separating the "wheat from the chaff".  We don't need to treat them like little children and do it for them. WE TRUST IN THE SOUND JUDGMENT OF OUR READERS!
  2. We figure that if someone wants to take a swipe at us 'cause they disagree with our point of view or they just don't like us, they should be afforded the opportunity to do so.  Afterall, they DID go to the trouble of linking to our website, and they did take the time to read what we have to say.  We are greatful for their readership!  WE RESPECT ALL OF OUR READERS, WE JUST DON'T RESPECT SOME OF THE INDEFENSIBLE POSITIONS THEY TAKE!
  3. We figure that we wouldn't be a very credible 'news analysis and opinion' site if we refused to accept and tolerate the opinions and viewpoints of other people.  Although we make no claims to being a "Cheap News Site" like CNL frequently boasts, we DO allow people to make their comments FREE of charge instead of charging $19.95 for the privilege.  WE WANT TO MAKE PARTICIPATION AFFORDABLE FOR ALL OUR READERS!
We agree with Jeff Noedel that cowardly insults should not be dished out via 'Anonymous' internet comments.  Why heck, I myself have been the victim of such cowardly insults and defamation.  Back on September 24 of 2009, a certain person who shall remain nameless right now but whom I may identify later if I become perturbed enough with him to do so, actually sent a defaming email to a well-known businessman here in Hermann.  In the email, this gutless little weasel stabbed me in the back.  In the email, this cowardly, back-stabbin', slimy slippery snail said the following things about me:
  1. ".... additional evidence is rolling in of Schaefer's likely insanity" - As far as I know, the person who made this "diagnosis" is not a licensed psychiatrist or a degreed psychologist.  I do, however, admit to being about a half-bubble off perfect level!  Ha ha ha!
  2. "I cannot imagine the noise that must be blaring inside his (meaning my) head." - Further psychiatric diagnosis!  And I didn't even have to pay $200 per hour!
  3. "Do I think he is dangerous?  Yes, I absolutely do. I think he is very dangerous." - Ha ha ha!  Not only is my secret admirer a pscyhiatrist, it also appears that he is a highly-skilled criminologist!
I don't imagine the person who sent this email ever imagined that the businessman he sent it to would forward it on to me.  But he did!  Nope, I doubt that he thought that might ever happen!

Now I happen to know that the person who sent this email back in September of 2009 reads Hermann Hearsay.  He will now know that I know what he did.  He will not be able to look me in the eye for he will now know for sure that I know that he is without a doubt a spineless, back-stabbin' coward.

Nonetheless, because I am a compassionate and considerate man, I have gone easy on this spineless, back-stabbin' slimy slippery snail, and I have chosen not to publicly "out" him in this article!  It is enough for me to know, at least for the time being, that he knows that I know all about him!  This gives me a great deal of personal satisfaction!  He can wonder from now on who in this community I might tell about his gutless, back-stabbin', slimy, slippery snail-like ways!

Yes, my friends, I agree 100% with Mr. Noedel!!!  I agree that "mean people suck"!  I agree that "mean people who stab you in the back suck even more"!  I don't agree with Mr. Noedel on much of anything else, but I do agree that "mean people who stab you in the back suck BIG time"!

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Happy 4th of July!

Published by Lois Lame, SSALRCYTMVDQJCP & Assistant Editor

Happy 4th of July to our friends and readers!  Wishing you and your loved ones a memorable holiday weekend!

I dug up a neat video from You Tube.  It's a video of Kate Smith introducing her new rendition of Irving Berlin's song "God Bless America".  I hope you enjoy it as much as I have!



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Friday, July 2, 2010

The County Tire Contract Controversy ..... Part I: County Commission Meeting and Road Department Meeting - 7/1/2010

Published by Dick Schaefer, Contributing Writer and Part-time Investigative Reporter

The Gasconade County Commission met at the Owensville City Hall on Thursday, 7/1/2010.  All of the principals took their seats at the front of the room:  Presiding Commissioner Ron Jost, Northern District Associate Commissioner Matt Penning, Southern District Associate Commissioner Jerry Lairmore and County Clerk Lesa Lietzow

The local press was represented by "Telescopic Camera Lens" Dave Marner from the Gasconade County Republican, "Online News Site Pioneer" Jeff Noedel from CNL ("Cheap News LIVE"), Anna Wiegenstein from Hermann NEWS, Don Kruse from The Hermann Advertiser-Courier, and yours truly from Hermann Hearsay

Other notable illuminaries in attendance were Charlie Brown, unpaid but often hassled volunteer video camera operator; Raymond "Mike" Jacquin, citizen activist, watchdog and pitbull extraordinaire; Kyle Lairmore, highly decorated and broadly acclaimed son of Jerry Lairmore, the 2010 Missouri Conservation Department Employee of the Year, the 2009 Owensville Man of The Year, 2009 NRA Award Recipient and, using one of Kyle's favorite words, "dickhead" who filed a bogus (that means false, Kyle) complaint with the Missouri Ethics Commission against Commissioner Penning last year;  Ron and Lynn Meyer, residents of Owensville and courthouse cleaning volunteers who along with others were once much maligned by County Collector Shawn Schlottach; Marty Keeling, mother-in-law of Ron Meyer and another maligned courthourse cleaning volunteer;  Mrs. Chuck Lewis, representing Central Tire Company of Owensville; Matt Jost, nephew of Ron Jost and son of Don Jost who owns Jost Tire Company; Morris Landwehr, faher-in-law of Jerry Lairmore; and John Penning, father of Matt Penning, a popular Hermann City Alderman and a guy who has"changed more tires than Ron Jost".  (I might add that John was changing tires before Ron Jost was knee high to a grasshopper, and John often had to change tires under adverse working conditions with Glen "Pierre LaPew" Sidener looking on and offering helpful unsolicited advice!)

Back to the subject of the county meeting though!  I guess y'all wanna hear about what happened!

First of all, I observed that the meeting atmosphere was very tense.  Nobody was smilin' .... well nobody but Commissioner Lairmore who wore a devilish smile upon his mustached face. Ya see, the commissioners had met with the County Road Department employees at the Drake Maintenance Shed prior to the public meeting in Owensville.  Now it seems that Commissioner Lairmore and Jost had worked out a deal with the Road Department employees (Wayne Kottwitz, Roger Dahl and Debbie Thomas) regarding the county tire contract well ahead of time.  Ya might say they kinda ambushed Commissioner Penning ..... but that's nothin' real new.  They've done it before!  Seems that when there's gonna be an orchestrated ambush, Lairmore and Jost tip off Noedel from "Cheap News LIVE" as well as Dave Marner from the GCR.  On this particular occasion, Noedel rushed to the Drake Road Department meeting like a panting and salivating dog, but it was probably too early in the mornin' for ol' Dave to roll out of bed and attend the meeting 'cause he didn't make it!

Now as a side matter, we here at Hermann Hearsay aren't real sure that the Road Department Meeting is an open and public meeting ...... but it does seem to be "open" to Mr. Noedel.  We will be researching this matter.  The questions we have are these:
  1. If the Road Department Meeting has in the past been open to the public, then has the Couny Clerk always posted proper NOTICE of the meeting as required under Missouri's Sunshine Laws?
  2. Where has the County Clerk posted NOTICE of this meeting?  Has it been widely publicized on bulletin boards throughout the county and in the county's two newspapers of record?
  3. If the Road Department Meeting has NOT been a meeting which has been open to the public, who invited Mr. Noedel to attend the 7/1 meeting?  And why was he alone invited when reporters from The Hermann Advertiser-Courier and Hermann NEWS were not.
So ya see, Commissioner Lairmore and Jost surprised the unsuspecting Commissioner Penning by discussing their new "solution" to the tire contract issues ol' Matt has been raising for two years and most recently in the 6/17 and 6/24 County Commission Meetings.  Penning objected to their "solution", but as is most often the case, he was out-voted by Lairmore and Jost

The "solution" which was devised by Lairmore, Jost and most likely forced upon the Road Department employees was this:
  1. No competitive bid process for the county tires and tire services this year.  (I don't know if this is in direct violation of Missouri statutes, but you can be sure I'm gonna find out.)
  2. Tire and tire services business to be "split" between the tire vendors (Jost Tire Company and Central Tire Company) on some undefined basis as yet to be determined by Wayne Kottwitz, Road Department Superintendent (no doubt under the close direction of Lairmore and Jost!)  Wanna guess which tire vendor will now get the largest portion of the county's tire and tire service business?!
  3. Tire pricing to the county will be the "state bid" pricing (or better should a vendor wish to cut the county a better deal).  Now, the only problem with this is that the tire specs which are not on the "state bid" pricing list will be charged out at whatever the county's tire vendor wants to charge.  Jerry Lairmore explained that we can "trust" our tire vendors to treat the county right on the pricing of those tire specs.  Oh, OK Jerry!  If you say so!
  4. But rather than allow the county's "trusted" tire vendors to determine which used tire casings are reusable and which are not and then provide credits back to the county accordingly, something which Chuck Lewis of Central Tire Company has been doing this past contract year at the direction of Commissioner PenningJerry Lairmore, never at a loss to suggest a convoluted, srewball idea in opposition to Commissioner Penning, stated that he really believes it would be best to have the used tire casings which are removed from the county trucks and graders returned back to the Drake Maintenance Shed where Jerry has promised to devise a whole new used tire casing tracking system and then make arrangements to bid out the tire casings on a periodic frequency yet to be determined.  Er uh, Jerry, I got a question ..... Who's gonna be hauling all those tires back to the Drake Maintenance Shed?  Don't guess you've figured out the cost of labor, fuel and lost opportunity to have our Road Department boys and girls haul tires to Drake from Owensville or wherever on county roads the used tires are pulled off county trucks and graders by our tire vendors?  And I was wonderin' if that will create a new position within the Gasconade County Road and Bridge Department?  "Used Tire Casing Hauler, Handler and Inventory Control Manager"?   Ha ha ha!  You're an idiot, Commissioner Lairmore!  And if I'm wrong and you ain't an idiot, maybe you are just wanting to set up a system where you and Ronnie can direct more tire business to Ronnie's brother Don over at Jost Tire Company?   Hmmmm?
  5. Oh, and we won't be bidding out the other miscellaneous things like labor rates for changing tires and doing other assorted things, batteries, parts, etc.  No, Jerry says we can just "trust" the tire vendors to treat the county right on all of these charges.
Now, none of the specifics of this new "Jerry Lairmore County Tire Purchasing Program" have been written up over at "Cheap News LIVE".  Have you ever wondered why "Cheap News LIVE" never challenges any of the screwball, preposterous stuff that Lairmore and Jost do?  I mean ol' Jeffy Pooh is supposed to have a top-notch news organization over there!  Just ask him or Hank Vonk!  Ha ha ha!  (Sure hope you boys at CNL are readin' this!)

And no mention at "Cheap News LIVE" about the specific and highly rational objections which both Commissioner Penning and citizen watchdog "Mike" Jacquin raised!  No mention that non-state bid tire specs should be bid out since they aren't on the state list.  No mention that labor represents a significant portion of the county's tire and tire services cost and therefore the labor rates should be competitively bid.  No mention that Chuck Lewis of Central Tire Comapny has been providing tire casing credits to the county for the past year and that Jost Tire Company on the otherhand has NEVER given the county a tire casing credit.  No, NEVER!

"Cheap News LIVE" didn't report to their readers that it was a glaring "conflict of interest" for Presiding Commissioner Jost to second Jerry Lairmore's motion to adopt the new "Jerry Lairmore County Tire Purchasing Program" vs. competitively bidding the contract as the county has done for years and years.  "Cheap News LIVE" didn't report that it was a glaring "conflict of interest" for Presiding Commissioner Ron Jost to vote affirmatively on a motion which will have the resultant effect of directing more tire and tire services business to Jost Tire Company which is owned by Don Jost who is Ron Jost's brother.  My understanding is that Ron Jost is still employed by Jost Tire Company on a part-time basis, but I suppose I could be wrong.  Maybe Mr. Noedel is not aware of these things.  But how could that possibly be?  Mr. Noedel afterall proclaims himself to be a great journalist and his company a great news organization!  Maybe Mr. Noedel doesn't understand what constitutes a "conflict of interest".  Or .......... maybe Mr. Noedel is somehow being influenced to "look the other way"!  Surely not?  That wouldn't meet the high standards of journalistic ethical behavior now would it?

Be sure to stay tuned for Part II: Presiding Commissioner Ron Jost's Conflict of Interest and Unethical Actions.  In this article, I will explain in no uncertain terms exactly which Missouri statute(s) Presiding Commissioner Ron Jost violated in this week's County Commissioner Meeting.  And I will also explain that what Jost and Lairmore are doing with respect to the county's tire contract is unethical and not in the best interests of the county taxpayers.  This will be stuff you will never see reported over at "Cheap News LIVE".

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Editorial Comment: Hermann Hearsay Endorses Judge Cynthia Eckelkamp

Published by Jimmy Oldsun, NDRIRSRWRAFTC & Editor

Hermann Hearsay's Editorial Board met this morning and unanimously agreed to formally endorse Judge Cynthia Eckelkamp in her bid for re-election as Circuit Judge in the August 3rd Republican Primary Election.

The following information has been copied and pasted from Judge Eckelkamp's website .....

Judge Eckelkamp has the experience where it counts:

In her former position as Associate Circuit Judge and now as Circuit Judge, Judge Eckelkamp has handled over 17,000 cases. She has worked extremely hard to bring all cases to a speedy resolution. Because she carefully reviews all case files prior to hearings, she makes clear and fair decisions quickly.


As Circuit Judge, she has provided the leadership needed to maximize the benefits provided by the court’s computers and well-trained staff, reducing delays and providing fair, tough, commonsense resolutions to difficult problems. Judge Eckelkamp treats everyone with respect and considers the impact of her decisions on victims and children. She listens intently, carefully searches the law, and issues decisions promptly.

Judge Eckelkamp possesses a rare combination of courage, integrity, impartiality, and enthusiasm.


Dedicated Community Servant:

Judge Cynthia Eckelkamp, the Circuit Judge in Division 2, lives near Washington with her husband Terry Witthaus and their daughter, Sonja. Their son Ansel works in Mountain View, California and their son Cyrus plans to graduate from Grinnell College in May 2010. The daughter of Woody and Helen Eckelkamp, Cynthia was born in Washington and raised near Villa Ridge where her father was the rural mail carrier. She is a 1967 graduate of Washington High School, a 1970 graduate of Vassar College and 1977 graduate of the Washington University School of Law. Judge Eckelkamp has served as a high school teacher, a law school teacher, a mediator, and a clerk for the Missouri Court of Appeals. She was married in 1980 to Terry Witthaus.

Judge Eckelkamp has a long history of volunteer service at Immanuel Lutheran Church and in our community as a 4-H leader, Parent Teacher Organization President, Washington High School Orchestra Booster President, Mock Trial Advisor, Academic Booster Board Member, and Sunday School teacher.


From Left to Right:  Terry, Sonja, Cyrus, Cindy, Ansel

Judge Cynthia Eckelkamp is:

Experienced:
  • Hardworking Associate Circuit Judge, Division 6 and Circuit Judge, Division 2
  • 18,000+ Decisions, fewer than 10 reversals
  • Respected attorney since 1977
  • Successful law practice in Union for over 15 years
  • Former Judicial Clerk - Mo. Court of Appeals
  • Former Court-approved Mediator
  • Former Special Prosecutor
  • Proficient in courtroom use of technology
  • Fair, honest, and independent
  • Former high school teacher
  • Former instructor at Washington University School of Law
  • Author of numerous "plain language" documents
Rooted in the Community:
  • 5th generation resident of Franklin County
  • Daughter of William “Woody” and Helen Eckelkamp of Villa Ridge
  • Graduate of Washington High School
  • Graduate of Vassar College
  • Masters in Education from Missouri University, Columbia
  • Graduate of Washington University School of Law
  • Married to Terry Witthaus for 30 years
  • Mother of three children – Sonja, Ansel, and Cyrus
  • Active - Immanuel Lutheran Church, Washington
  • Active - Franklin County 4-H Leader
  • Former High School Parent - WHS Orchestra Boosters, Mock Trial Advisor, Academic Booster Board
  • Former Girl Scout Leader
Committed to:

  • Encourage speedy case resolution to reduce backlog and make justice available to all parties
  • Render commonsense decisions that solve problems
  • Treat litigants and attorneys with respect
  • Devote a full day each day to the court
  • Embrace new technologies that streamline and improve the legal system
  • Positively influence the many young people that will come into her courtroom
  • Render decisions that dignify family values
Judge Cynthia Eckelkamp

Impartial, Hardworking, & Courageous:

Your Experienced Judge

E-mail the Judge:  cindy@cindy4judge.com

Paid for by Reelect Judge Eckelkamp, Terry Witthaus Treasurer

Weekend Weather Report - 7/2 thru 7/4

Published by Charlie Farquharson, Weekend Weather Reporter

Hello Hermann Hearsay readers!  This is Charlie Farquharson with your Weekend Weather Report!

It's going to be hot this weekend!  But afterall folks it's the Fourth of July weekend, so it should be hot!

Today it's been sunny and we're expecting highs in the mid to upper 80s with humidity at about 34%.  Tonight you can expect a low of 58° F.  Take your sweater along if you're gonna be outside night fishin' or froggin'.

For Saturday, you can expect lots of sunshine with a high temperature of 90° F and 36% humidity.  The low temperature Saturday night will be 72° F (or thereabouts).

On Sunday the 4th, expect partly sunny skies and more humid conditions.  The high for the day will be 86° F and the low Sunday night will be 72° F.  Humidity will rise to 66%.

Have a great July 4th weekend and BE SAFE!

Gasconade County Tire and Tire Services Contract Controversy

Published by Dick Schaefer, Contributing Writer and Part-time Investigative Reporter

I've been mulling over what I and other citizens witnessed at this week's Gasconade County Commission meeting in Owensville.  I've been reading Jeff Noedel's one-sided report about the meeting over on his website CNL ("Cheap News LIVE").  Now I await Dave Marner's written account of the meeting next week in the Gasconade County Republican.  Marner's report should be equally "interesting".

It's going to take me several postings (at least four) to say all that I want to say about the 7/1 county meeting as well as the continuing controversy over the county's tire and tire services contract.  I'm going to break down my reports as follows:
  1. Part I:  County Commission Meeting and Road Department Meeting - 7/1/2010
  2. Part II:  Presiding Commissioner Ron Jost's Conflict of Interest and Unethical Actions
  3. Part III:  Irregularities Found In Prior Year Tire and Tire Services Invoices
  4. Part IV:  Why Jeff Noedel, CNL Publisher, Goes Out Of His Way To Slam Matt Penning Every Chance He Gets
My written reports will be posted when I'm well satisified that I have gathered all the relevant facts and have put together reports which will be clear and understandable to our readers. 

In the meantime, if you see me in a coffee shop, let's talk.  I will give you an earful!  And it will be truthful to the best of my ability to perceive the truth.  I neither solicit nor take money from anyone in county government.  I have no financial relationship with anyone in county government.  I do not rely upon nor solicit "exclusive inside news scoops" from anyone in county government.  I do not publish PR reports for anyone in county government nor for their immediate family members.  I am free to publish the unvarnished truth.  I am blunt.  I do not spin, fabricate, fog or misrepresent.

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Quote Of The Day - Friday, 7/2/2010

Published by Lois Lame, SSALRCYTMVDQJCP & Assistant Editor

"When you reach the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on!"  ~ Cyrus Hall

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Thursday, July 1, 2010

Too stunned to report on the July 1st County Commission Meeting!

Published by Dick Schaefer, Contributing Writer and Part-time Investigative Reporter

Have you ever been punched in the gut so hard you couldn't breath or speak?  I feel that way today.  I am too stunned, too incredulous, too frustrated, and too angry to write up an accounting of today's Gasconade County Commission Meeting!  Perhaps by tomorrow I shall be able to gather my wits about me and compose a report worthy of your reading.

For now I will simply offer the following personal reflection:

"Slick-talking, dishonest, self-serving, pathological liars, conspiring closely together, will always frustrate if not completely thwart the best efforts of a few, well-intended, honest men ...... at least they will in the short run.  Over the long haul, however, the persistent unassailable truth will eventually find a way to win out.  Falsehoods will ultimately be exposed, and the truth will prevail."

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Photo Of The Day - Thursday, 7/1/2010

Published by Lois Lame, SSALRCYTMVDQJCP & Assistant Editor


Yadier Molina
St. Louis Cardinals' Catcher

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Laugh Of The Day - Thursday, 7/1/2010

Published by Lois Lame, SSALRCYTMVDQJCP & Assistant Editor

"She got her good looks from her father. He's a plastic surgeon."  ~ Henny Youngman



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Quote Of The Day - Thursday, 7/1/2010

Published by Lois Lame, SSALRCYTMVDQJCP & Assistant Editor

The subject was strikeouts and walks.  During his career with the New York Yankees, the late, great Mickey Mantle (#7) had 1,710 strikeouts and 1,734 walks.
 
"That's 3,444 times I came to bat without hitting the ball," Mickey said.  "Figure 500 at-bats a season for a player playing regularly --- and that means I played seven years without hitting the ball."

That's a lot of swings, attempts and difficulties to overcome for one of the most respected batting champions baseball has ever known.

Mickey continued, "Sometimes when I'm doing a question-and-answer, a guy will ask, 'Didn't you strikeout a lot?'  I say, 'I sure did.  I struck out 1,710 times, but every one of them was almost a home run.'"

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