Date: 3/13/2011
Post: 1,827
We recently received an email from A. E. Newman of Bland, MO. Mr. Newman is a candidate for Southern District Associate Commissioner here in Gasconade County. Here is the text of Newman's email:
To the Editor of Hermann Hearsay;
I've observed that it can sometimes become more difficult than one could possibly imagine to bestow a valuable gift upon another. Sometimes people are ungrateful, unreasonable and inappropriately
circumspect. Sometimes people look too hard to find the faults in a gift rather than the value and benefits.
In my humble opinion, such is the case with "The Roetheli Properties" which the Gasconade County Courthouse Society (GCCS) has been endeavoring to transfer over to the county via two (2) general warranty deeds. Lot's of questions and concerns are being raised by Commissioners Jost and Lairmore. And legal opinions are being shopped.
You've no doubt heard the old proverb "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth." The meaning of this proverb is: "Don't be ungrateful when you receive a gift, and don't be inappropriately circumspect."
Proverbs are 'short and expressive sayings, in common use, which are recognized as conveying some accepted truth or useful advice'. The gift horse phrase is often expressed as 'never look a gift horse in the mouth'.
As horses age their teeth begin to project further forward each year and so their age can be estimated by checking how prominent the teeth are. This incidentally is also the source of another teeth/age related phrase - long in the tooth.
The advice given in the 'Don't look a gift horse ... ' proverb is this: When given a present or gift, be grateful for your good fortune and don't look for more by examining it to assess its value or find fault with the gift.
As with most proverbs the origin is ancient and unknown. We have some clues with this one however. The phrase was originally "don't look a given horse in the mouth" and first appears in print in 1546 in John Heywood's "A Dialogue Containing The Number In Effect Of All The Proverbs In The English Tongue", where he gives it as:
- "No man ought to look a gift horse in the mouth."
- "Many hands make light work."
- "Rome wasn't built in a day."
- "A good beginning makes a good ending."
But I digress. Back to the main point of this email message. The GCCS (and the Roethelis) are attempting to make a very generous gift of potentially very useful property to Gasconade County. The two "Roetheli properties", which are located immediately west of and east of the county courthouse in Hermann, are estimated to be worth approximately $800,000. These two properties will be very useful for the purpose of any future expansion of county government office facilities along with improved access road(s) and parking space. The county should accept this generous and potentially useful gift and agree to the transfer of the properties via the general warranty deeds which have been drawn up by GCCS Attorney Don Althauser. If minor changes to language or terms of transfer in the warranty deed are desired by the county, I am sure the GCCS (and the Roethelis) will be open to consideration of the same.
But IF Commissioners Jost and Lairmore persist in finding fault with the terms of the gift of the property, they should be called upon to explain their concerns not only to Dale Ridder, President of the GCCS, but also to the citizens of Gasconade County. They should be called upon to show cause as to why the transfer of the "Roetheli properties" to the county does not enure to the long-term interest and benefit of the county. I don't believe they can show such cause. I believe the terms of the warranty deeds have been drawn up in such a way as to protect the interests of both the Roethelis who desire the property to be used by the county to expand and improve our county government center as well as the people of Gasconade County.
As closely and critically as Commissioners Jost and Lairmore may "look in the mouth" of this generous gift of property, I believe they will find no actual fault. That's why I question their motives. Are they intentionally trying to find fault with the gift because of some ulterior motive? Is this a "gift horse" they don't want to accept on behalf of all the people of Gasconade County? Are they trying to delay or scuttle this property transfer? IF so, why? Are Jost and Lairmore representing the best interests of the people of Gasconade County? Or are they representing the interests of a small minority in Owensville? Are they actually dragging their feet and obstructing the transfer of this property, because they do not support the future renovation and expansion of the seat of government in Hermann? Despite an overwhelming defeat at the polls in November 2008 on the question of relocating the county seat (Prop. B), are Jost and Lairmore, under the direction of their wealthy Owensville puppet masters, actually obstructing progress in Hermann so that the county seat proposition may be brought before the voters once again (as early as 2013 if by special election or 2014 if in conjunction with a general election)? And IF Commissioners Jost and Lairmore should continue to look askance at the Roethelis ' gift and obstruct progress by throwing up one objection after another, will the GCCS, under the leadership of President Dale Ridder, exhibit the patience of Job in answering and responding to their real and imagined concerns with the property transfer? Will the GCCS and the Roethelis become frustrated with Commissioner Jost and Lairmore and just withdraw their offer to transfer ownership of the property? And IF they should ultimately do so, is this what Jost and Lairmore secretly desire as the outcome and the consequence of their obstruction?
I would like to see our local news organizations investigate this story. I would like to see the principles involved with this proposed property transfer be interviewed and questioned. I would like to see these interviews published as the process unfolds. I want the people of Gasconade County to understand the process as it unfolds. I want the people to have the facts and to know the truth.
Now I admit that I am just speculating about what seems to be going on with regard to the Roetheli properties. I really hope that I am proven wrong! If the leaders of Gasconade County do ultimately accept this "gift horse" on behalf of the people, then we can move forward with necessary improvements to and renovations of our historical county courthouse! And that would be a very good thing!
Sincerely,
A. E. Newman
Candidate for SDA Commish
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Quit simple really. An agreement was reached at the last GCCS meeting where all 3 Commissioners attended. The Stuff GCCS had their lawyer write up, is NOT the original agreement made! Seems the GCCS slipped a little "Gift" to themselves into the mix! At no time, was giving the GCCS a Building and Real Estate, taken from a gift, to the "People of the County" ever part of the deal!!! But apparently, some folks think they are above the rest, and that taking something from a GIFT to the people is perfectly all right. Seems you feel that way too Dick! Your pal, Matt, tho, missed a meeting held with Ada about the gifting process. Seems he's been absent from a lot of meetings he's supposed to attend. Also. Joe Roetheli (you do remember who he is don't you dick?)says he had no intention of the GCCS taking ANY PART of his gift for themselves. Would you like to talk to him to hear this for yourself?? It can be arranged. So, in other words, your pals at GCCS are trying to pull a fast one, and got caught with a hand in the Cookie jar! AWWWWWWWW! Maybe, DICK, you should try reporting all the truth. Maybe, the county needs a new website, to counter your less than full, vastly slanted "reporting" LOL!!! hmmmm I'll have to think on that!
ReplyDeleteRalphie Boy:
ReplyDeleteWe published your comment this time. But only because you refrained from using profane language. I don't know the details of this matter, so I will not comment. You seem to be very familiar with what has transpired thus far. If A. E. Newman chooses to respond to your comment, that will be entirely up to him.
Jimmy Oldsun
Editor
I don't know why any idiot holding a responsible county office wouldn't know that they should happily accept the gift of $800,000 worth of property .... especially when that property adjoins property already owned by the county. If Jost and Lairmore ultimately torpedo the transfer of this property, I suppose we will at last have undeniable proof that they are, at a minimum, idiots or, in the worst case, serving the interests of a small group in Owensville rather than the interests of all the citizens of Gasconade County.
ReplyDeleteNotice to Mr. and Mrs. Joe Roetheli:
ReplyDeleteIf Commissioners Jost and Lairmore won't accept your generous $800,000 gift of property, we will! We would propose to build a sleazy tavern on the western property and a coffee shop on the eastern property. We intend to serve chickory coffee and donuts to courthouse visitors in the morning hours and we will serve beer and raw oysters to courthouse visitors for lunch and dinner. In the unlikely event that our businesses fail, the properties will revert back to you. There is no need for lawyers and warranty deeds! We can just shake hands on the deal!
Mr. and Mrs. Billy Bob Broussard
Baton Rouge, LA
Lairmore and Jost should stop pretending there is a problem and graciously accept the gift of the Roetheli properties!
ReplyDeleteDitto what Harvey said!
ReplyDeleteBoob
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteI don't know why any idiot holding a responsible county office wouldn't know that they should happily accept the gift of $800,000 worth of property ....
>>> when a deal is stuck, you HONOR it. I notice you do NOT ask why those who already AGREED on the “deal” (GCCS) felt the need to ALTER it?? And grab some of the COUNTIES new property, for THEMSELVES?? Perhaps, YOU are one of them???
If Jost and Lairmore ultimately torpedo the transfer of this property,
>>> Won’t happen, if those who made the deal, simply KEEP THEIR WORD!
I suppose we will at last have undeniable proof that they are, at a minimum, idiots or, in the worst case, serving the interests of a small group in Owensville rather than the interests of all the citizens of Gasconade County.
>>>Small minds make statements when they know nothing of the facts…. Read my original statement. If you’re not smart enough to get it…time for an IQ shot! You’re lacking… Idiot…
Mr. and Mrs. Billy Bob Broussard said...
Notice to Mr. and Mrs. Joe Roetheli:
If Commissioners Jost and Lairmore won't accept your generous $800,000 gift of property, we will! We would propose to build a sleazy tavern on the western property and a coffee shop on the eastern property. We intend to serve chickory coffee and donuts to courthouse visitors in the morning hours and we will serve beer and raw oysters to courthouse visitors for lunch and dinner. In the unlikely event that our businesses fail, the properties will revert back to you. There is no need for lawyers and warranty deeds! We can just shake hands on the deal!
Mr. and Mrs. Billy Bob Broussard
Baton Rouge, LA
>>> Dick, you writing stupid posts yourself again??? Lame, very Lame….. If you are going to try and cover for your pals, use FACTS and TRUTH! OOOPS!! You CAN’T, because that would be “incriminating”!! LOL!!! GOTCHA!
Harvey said...
Lairmore and Jost should stop pretending there is a problem and graciously accept the gift of the Roetheli properties!
>>> So you feel allowing some people to RIP OFF the County is ok, when those doing such KNOW it goes against the very wishes of the person DONATING the land to the County?? So, Dictators and thieves are cool with you eh??? Figures…
Boob said...
Ditto what Harvey said!
>>> two stupid people still don’t make it right! LOL!! Dick, you’re slipping….
Ha ha ha! Seems like Ralphie Boy is getting agitated and taking Newman's letter pretty personal! I wonder why?
ReplyDeleteBarry Schmelly
Hey there Ralphie Boy!
ReplyDeleteAin't seen ya down at the lodge in awhile! Give my best to Alice!
Norton
Ralphie Boy, thou doth protest too much, methinks.
ReplyDeleteWillie Shakespeare
Dang! I think A. E. Newman hit a nerve!
ReplyDeleteBobby Vee
Yo, Ralphie Boy!
ReplyDeleteHere's an old proverb my high school Latin teacher was fond of using in her class ....
"If the shoe fits, wear it!" This expression means: "If it applies, take it to heart." Perhaps Jost and Lairmore should take A. E, Newman's 'Letter To The Editor' to heart.
Whadda ya think, Ralphie Boy?
Titus Maximus
P.S. Here's another good one for you, and this one goes way back to the Romans....
"Illegitimi non carborundum". Google it Ralphie!
I have a lot of trust and confidence in Dale Ridder, President of the GCCS, to address whatever real and imagined concerns Messrs. Jost and Lairmore might have about what should be a simple transfer of gifted property. I have found Mr. Ridder to be extremely patient, tolerant and reasonable. I'm sure he will do his level best to represent the GCCS and the Roethelis in the proper handling of this gifted property transaction.
ReplyDeleteDick Schaefer
To our readers:
ReplyDelete"Ralphie Boy" has been SPAMMED and will no longer be allowed to post comments on this site. His last comment was offensive in that it contained profane language and a link to an insulting website. "Ralphie Boy" had been warned many times before. We have exhausted our patience with him.
We do not allow SPAM on this site. The ONLY person who is allowed to post links to his website, www.HermannMoNews.blogspot.com, is Poor Richard. Poor Richard courteously sought permission before the fact, and we granted him permission. We are happy to help him promote his news site. HermannMoNews carries a lot of timely and important news articles.
Jimmy Oldsun
Editor
I think you will enjoy the peace and quiet Jimmy, now that the ranting spammer is gone!!! We do not tolerate such behavior on Hermann Mo News, it detracts from the service that we try to provide the majority of our World-wide readers. The world seems to be getting smaller all the time and the center of the world is NOT Hermann Missouri (just one of the most pleasant places). Ralphie and his cronies put way too much importance upon themselves! Now they can busy themselves with cleaning their shoes. Perhaps they will be more careful in the future, where they are stepping.
ReplyDeleteKeep up the good work!!!
PR2011